The problem with the budget isn’t its size or its underlying philosophy, which is one of pragmatic progressivism. 问题不是预算的大小问题,或它蕴含的观念,即某种务实的革新主义。
Shi Jing (below as Shi) : I was influenced by progressivism, and I wanted to make something that was indefinable. 史晶(以下简称史):当时是受到进步论的影响,就是想做出一种无法界定的东西。